Wright-Patterson AFB Bass Lake FamCamp

Agree with the below comments. This place has improved. Stopped back in here for a few days. Even noticed improvements since last visit. MWR needs to be reminded that only paid employees are authorized to handle/process credit card info and personal information. Being real polite saying that. Otherwise the place is one heck of an improvement over years ago.

You can read on this on this web site: "Senate lawmakers want to radically overhaul how military housing stipends are awarded and end the practice of troops pocketing extra cash from the payouts. Many active duty militatry personnel are collecting the various housing allowances and are living in US Military RV Parks. For financial reasons, I don't blame them. I met an active duty person who bragged that she was pocketing over $1,000 a month, since the Military RV Park was affordable and included all utilities. However, as an RV'er, I don't agree with anyone living in a "recreational" facility. This may all end soon, as Senate lawmakers want to radically overhaul how military housing stipends are awarded and end the practice of troops pocketing extra cash from the payouts. Instead of the current Basic Allowance for Housing system, which assigns flat-rate stipends for zip codes across the country based on troops’ rank and family status, the new proposal would move closer to the military’s Overseas Housing Allowance. That system sets maximum payable stipends but awards troops only for their actual expenses, making recipients provide proof of what they pay in rent and utilities costs. If it becomes law, the new housing allowance payouts would not go into effect until January 2018, giving military officials at least a year to implement and explain the new system." The homesteaders at Wright Patterson have been in the same spaces years and years. This is in violation of the AFI. Which clearly states campgrounds are not to be used as long term housing. They are for recreational use only. Further the AFI states those employed on and off base, stationed on that base, etc will not use the Famp Camp as long term housing. I suggest others write a letter to the Commander of Wright Patterson AFB expressing your displeasure with the homesteaders in the Wright Patterson Fam Camp. We are going to send a letter to the base commanders. Others need to do the same!

MS Phillips good comments. Agree The host is great. When we were there the guy in 5th wheel and guy in Airstream were working hard. Both are campers. Not MWR staff. Between those two and a few others they have done wonders for the place. Only complaint we have is the mowers need to learn to blow AWAY from RVs. EVERY TIME THEY MOW -- BLOW AWAY FROM THE RVs. Other complaint is one or two people brought their dogs into the laundry room. They know who they are and they know better. Yes a system needs to be set up for comments to the command. We were told by one of the campers that ICE comments were ignored by MWR at WP. 

Visited this FC a few times over the years. Yes, has improved. This improvement can be directly linked to volunteers doing the improvements. MWR on this base has long over looked this camp ground. Thankfully, one certain person got involved and his involvement caused all of the improvements. If this one person, a long term camper, had not got involved the place would be in bad shape as it was for years. MWR has done little for this campground. You can thank the volunteers for the improvements. Agree with roundTire's comment about the mowers. They need to exhaust the mower away from RVs. The debris from their mowers are blasting small rocks towards the RVs. Someone, be it the operator or MWR, will pay for damages to RVs. Dog owners are dog owners. They think their dogs rule. And they, the owner, is exempt from the rules. We even saw the camp ground host taking her two dogs into the laundry room. All need to follow the rules. We also heard comments about MWR at this base not reading ICE comments. We were told the negative comments are deleted. Not a way to run a business! Take the good with the bad. Act on the negative comments as well as the positive ones. MWR can, and should, read and act on the negative comments. If this is true, what a shame. If you feel your comments were not acted on, or trashed by MWR, then submit them directly to the Commander Wright Patterson AFB. And state in your comment why you are submitting a comment directly to the Commander. Instead of on ICE.

Do not give MWR ODR any credit for improvements made to the WP FamCamp!!!! The place is cleaned up solely because of the volunteers. Especially the guy in 5th wheel space #12, the host and the little guy in the overflow area. They mowed, cleaned, did flower beds and more. And other volunteers as well have done lots there. If it left up to MWR to get things done at the Fam Camp it will not get done. Office does not answer phone calls. The phone rings at MWR while employees are chatting about nonsense non related work issues. It is an exceptional thing when they do answer the phone or return your phone call. This MWR is the most poorly managed and ran of all MWRs that we have seen. Go out of your way to get a receipt for any transaction done by the office. Check the receipt ODR gives you. The ODR office cannot manage the place. MWR has no idea how to run a Fam Camp. The host is doing a wonderful job. She did so much as a volunteer before getting the job as host. Pray she does not leave. She is a blessing to the place. She is wonderful to deal with. Very very helpful. and a hard worker. Be careful what you wish for about kicking the homesteaders out of Fam Camps. A few of them do a super good job of helping out. They are friendly and helpful. They do not get paid and do not get free rent. Who will do all of this when they leave? No one! We are at McChord now. The homesteads were kicked out here. Something about not following the AFI. Now there is only one lady (Amanda) in the office and Maggie part time. Who we believe is just helping out. The former manager (Ron) was let go over the homesteader issue. 15 homesteaders were booted out. Including Roy. Roy and others did much for the FamCamp at McChord. Now who is going to do it? Roy used to work till 9 or 10 pm working and doing things at the park. Ron went above and beyond his duties and did so much for the place. Now no one will be there to do all the extra work Roy, Ron and volunteers did. So, based upon what we have seen at McChord, if the volunteers and the host leave Wright Pat Fam Camp the place will be in bad shape again. The homesteaders at WP are friendly and helpful. Only complaint we have is the mowers need to exhaust the mower away from RVs. 

Stayed at this camp before.  Some things have improved.  Such as grass is now cut (+), bath house is now cleaned often (+), and other minor things done to improve(+).  WIFI is now in the camp ground(+).  Last visit it was in the lodge out of range from the camp ground (-). Remains a pain to contact the office(-), to pay(-) and to find the park on base(-) (no direction signs to camp).  We finally got someone on the phone at the office.  Spoke with a T****S (-) on the phone.  Poor customer service and phone courtesy by this guy on the phone to us(-)! MWR-ODR is trying to hire a full time camp host.  This may end some of the poor customer service by office staff and lack of communication with the office. Filling the host gap is now being done by a few of the homesteaders.  They have done lots to improve the camp ground. One male homesteader has done a super great job in cleaning the place up (+)  Hats off to him.  He deserves a huge pat on the back and a "thank you." We have been to many military camp grounds.  Some hosts do a wonderful job.  Others make your stay miserable.  The good ones know their limits.  Keep out of your face and business. A common trait among the bad hosts we have seen is they get a attitude, we see often, that they own the place. Get combative and bossy.  Do not have the support, or liking, of the customers.  Hosts need to be reminded they serve the customer.  The productive relationship between the customers and the host can be quickly destroyed in a few bad incidents and bad attitude by the host.  Bad word travels faster than good word.  A rude bossy host is counter productive and gets nothing but bad reviews, complaints to higher ups and eventually told to move on.  Then back to square one.  Have this host help the place.  Not ruin it. From what we were told there has never been a host at this camp ground.  Do it the right way from day one.  Do not let who ever the host will be run unsupervised by higher ups. Over all this camp ground is an improvement from years ago.  This is due mostly due to the work done by the homesteaders there.  Especially that one guy.  Good job guy.  Thank you. 

We have stayed here several times over the past few years, as this RV park is located close to family. By far, this was the best visit that we have ever had, as overall management has improved dramatically. The RV sites are level and concrete. The access roads are paved, the hookups are good, the grounds are well-maintained, and the WiFi is good. The only two negative comments that I would have are in regards to the reservations system and recycling. There is still a disconnect between the folks who take reservations and the camp hosts. I changed my reservation several days prior to arrival and that change did not get communicated to the camp hosts. When I arrived, my site had almost been given away to someone else (which would not have been good since the FamCamp was filled to capacity). Also, there is no recycling on site. Adding this amenity would be helpful. Regardless, we would definitely stay here again when we are in the area, especially given the management improvements.

I made reservations and had to cancel a week in advance due to an emergency. I was told I lost $25 ( one night ) due to their cancellation policy, I have been staying at FamCamp's for 10 years and I've never lost a deposit due to an emergency cancellation, most FamCamp's will just hold a credit card and not charge it until you arrive, they charged all three nights on the card before I arrived. I don't agree with their policies but I had no recourse.

Stayed here years ago. A great improvement from years ago. This place has improved. But does not rate a 5.0 as some have given on here. It is your average, in some ways below average, military camp ground. Host hubby and wife. Kinda over board. Lots of home steaders still living full time as it was years ago. With increase of transient RVs about time the home steaders are told to move on after a 30 day stay? Some contractors in that homesteader mix. Few transient people had to rotate from full hook up to partial. There were a few dry camping as well. Should be indicator that time for the homesteaders to move on.

Very nice campground with some pull-thrus available. Nice restroom/shower and laundry facilities with wifi at the restrooms. Staff were incredibly helpful and friendly. Level sites. Off season camping spaces were available, but there are some homesteaders who told me they have been allowed to stay 364 days a year, then have to move for only 24 hours, but move right back. 

Many improvements have been made. Reservations now done on site. One of the host seems to be a little sharp and impatient. Homesteaders stil there. Never rotate. Guy in space 12 is hard worker. Did/does lots for the place. But this does not excuse his abusive rude behavior towards one of my friends. Guy in space 12 needs to sincerely apologize for his out of line behavior. Will not mention my friend's name but he (my friend) did much for the place as well. When others were watching and doing nothing he was out there helping day after day the guy in space 12 mowing, weeding, pouring rocks in front of the laundry room, moving old tables, putting in new tables and more. Over all, great job done at the camp ground.

Highly recommend arriving during the week as the gate nearest the campground is closed on the week-ends. Also recommend downloading the map as this makes it much easier to find your way around. The campground was very clean and we were greeted by the camp host upon arrival (Sunday) and they even had a pot luck dinner that day of ribs etc. We didn't bring a pass around but there was lots of food there and meeting other campers was very nice. They don't seem to have a lot of scheduled activities, games, etc even though there is a very nice rec hall. Maybe we just didn't stay long enough to get involved. The best part of the trip is the Museum where they just opened up the fourth building this year and it is very much worth the trip. You can go aboard Air Force One (older one) and the Space Shuttle, which is part original and part made up to be full scale. Highly recommend several days to take this all in.

Reservations recommended. Many active duty and contractors living here full time. Length of stay is 365 days. Park has had a steady stream of over-nighters. To extend you most likely will have to move around. There is a rotation going on for extended stay, in and out of partial hook-up sites to full hook-up sites and back again. Park Appearance: mowed. Trash picked up routinely. Asphalt pads with concrete patios are older. Utility boxes old. Women’s Shower/Toilets: Updated and clean. Laundry: 1.00/.50 wash/dry: Large top load commercial Speed Queen washers and dryers in good repair. Commissary: Large. Meat and produce selection large. Some Organic selections. Camp WIFI - One access point located on top of bath house. Slow, drop off rate HIGH, when you do gain access, it is extremely slow.