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3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago #14496 by monkey44
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Anyone know how to add a spouse to the disabled vets system to update my DAV ?

She is already on DEERS, but I can't find the way to add her without snail-mail the docs .. I found E-benefits, but keep getting locked out when I try to add Genie as my dependent.


ON EDIT: I got into a VA site and added a spouse/dependent online ... was NOT simple, but got it done.
- you can add or delete or change status of any dependents.

It won't let me copy the link -- but the site is under VA E-benefits ... on google search.
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3 years 1 month ago #14506 by Sarge3398
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Whew...glad Genie's finally legal Monkey! :laugh:

The only thing wrong with being retired is that you never get a day off!

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3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago #14509 by monkey44
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Yes, right John - altho it only changes the legal part :) :) :) Paperwork, you know ! Only took us five years living and RV'ing together to decide we are not a one-night stand.

Another comment on the "add a spouse" -- once I got signed up on the VA E-benefits page -- which is quite a chore in itself. The e-page took all my info, then it said :: OK, you've been submitted and we have your application. We expect this to be ruled on sometime between February 2017 and October 2018 ... End of transmission.

Now, I'm wondering why it takes VA over a year to add a spouse ?? That's bizarre ... So, because we only have one VA office that I can find near us St Pete, and it never, ever answers its phone, I'll find one on the road when we take off in May, and talk directly to a VA rep .... It's beyond my comprehension that VA sets up a website to more efficiently (according to itself) collect information from Vets, and then it takes over a year to get a response.
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3 years 1 month ago #14510 by Hank85713
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if you belong to vfw or dav, amer legion, they have reps that canhelp ya and they know the va systems inside out supposedly. I have never used but when I retired I was told to join all since you could never tell when ya needed help.

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3 years 1 month ago #14511 by monkey44
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Yeah - Lifetime member of DAV, but can't get them to answer the phone. I'm still pursuing it - but my point too was why it takes A YEAR to add a spouse online, and the get an appointment takes almost that long. That's crazy !!!

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2 years 7 months ago #14995 by monkey44
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Just to follow up here ... I stopped at both a DAV office and a Florida State Vets office. Both simply looked into a computer, told me "Yup, the application is in." That's it, that's all the help. It in fact took almost five months to add her, and I finally got a letter stating she is now classified as "spouse" - plus back paid Bennies to the date of application.

I do notice when I got divorced a few years ago, it only took ONE month to stop her benefits, and I got a letter almost immediately. Same with Tricare - almost immediate. Altho adding Genie to TFL only required a trip to the base and obtaining her ID and adding her to DEERS.

One other issue here - for those with a S&B house and a VA loan. YOu cannot add your spouse to the loan if you have a mortgage. To protect your spouse entitlement to a residence (if she's not a veteran) it requires a complete refinance and all the closing costs again. We fought that a while, came to a compromise. YOU CAN, however, add her to the DEED at the town offices without REFI. THEN, if you meet the MCG in the sky before her, she can assume the loan as long as she is qualified. Anyone needing more detail on this issue contact me direct and I'll share - it is quite a struggle due to all the paperwork, and the banks wanting duplicate fees for the same loan ... was huge headache, and took months and months. And, we are with NFCU and have been over twenty years - still a true struggle. But if you begin this journey - DO NOT take "NO" for an answer ... that's the first answer you will get.

ONE other fact - for those vets that try to lower interest rate on existing VA loan with the IRRIF Program, it still requires complete closing costs again on the loan, so watch those costs especially the three percent funding fee - it really adds up, and you should take care to account for all the costs before REFI ... it's not cheap, and will often offset any interest savings. Matter of fact, if we'd have done it that way, it would have taken twelve years to break even on costs vs savings. So, be careful what you wish for.

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2 years 7 months ago #15005 by dubob
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I can appreciate your frustration. I retired in 1980 and was certified by the VA in 1981 with a 20% service connected disability. That percentage amount has grown to 70% over the years. I didn't know until 2016 that there are several different levels of financial compensation based on with/without children and with/without spouse. I had been receiving financial benefits based on veteran alone from 1980 until 2016 when I in fact had a spouse and dependent children at home when I started and have been married to the same woman since 1961. Not one single person in the VA system EVER mentioned the fact that I could be receiving more money each month if I had a wife or children living at home. Not one! Ever! I now receive compensation for the with spouse level. It took about 3 months for the VA to process that application for me. It was made retroactive to the date of the application - NOT to 1980 as it should have been in my opinion. It's NEVER the Governments fault that you don't know what your benefits are.

Bob Hicks, from Utah
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1 year 2 months ago #16514 by Swim-bike-run-1
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...last sentence is straight outta the blamers manual...it's there fault I didn't know???

Personal responsibility...your job to know your rights, benefits and entitlements, hire a lawyer like the rest of us if you need help it's the American way...

Also, IMO you're being quite unreasonable, irrational if you expect back pay/retroactive from the V.A. For more than the 24month maximum...cmon lets keep it real huh?

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1 year 2 months ago #16524 by dubob
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Swim-bike-run-1 wrote: ...last sentence is straight outta the blamers manual...it's there fault I didn't know???

Personal responsibility...your job to know your rights, benefits and entitlements, hire a lawyer like the rest of us if you need help it's the American way...

Also, IMO you're being quite unreasonable, irrational if you expect back pay/retroactive from the V.A. For more than the 24month maximum...cmon lets keep it real huh?

When I was rated 20% in 1980 and filled out the application paperwork and was counseled by the VA, there wasn't any indication on the forms or in the briefings as to different levels of compensation. As soon as I received my disability rating from the VA, I became a life member of the DAV. I have never seen any mention in the DAV magazine of the different levels of compensation based on marital status or dependents. There simply wasn't any information source that I was aware of at the time that indicated that I actually had choices. THAT was the reality for me in 1980.

The information about different levels of compensation should be a given in both organizations to the veterans at the very earliest part of the application process, IMHO. As to my personal responsibilities, I make it a point to bring factual information to other veterans (as I did above) on this and other websites so that they might benefit from it and not make the same mistakes I did. I'm fully aware that there isn't a snow balls chance in Hell that I will every see any of that lost revenue because I wasn't offered full information on what my options were at the time of initial application; with or without a lawyer. My only point in bringing it up here was to help future veterans that might see it here to fully understand what their options are and act accordingly. Your snide comments as to my intent and purpose are duly noted and dismissed.

Bob Hicks, from Utah
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