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Admiral Baker R V Park San Diego 7 years 8 months ago #12800

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Can anyone tell me why and How the Navy has been able to open the Admiral Baker RV Park up to the Public? This makes it almost imposable for Military to get a reservation there. How has our Military lobby groups let this happen? :(

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Admiral Baker R V Park San Diego 7 years 8 months ago #12801

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This isn't the only military campground open to the public. There's a few more open to the public across the USA.
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Admiral Baker R V Park San Diego 5 years 10 months ago #14532

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I know this is a long ago subject but I work at a military golf course and I hear the same issues, why is the course open to others than DOD/Military ETC. In our case we have to "pay our own way", and if it wasn't open to others we couldn't pay the bills, then closure. "Military only" will not pay the large expense, and its prob the same for the RV parks. I to don't like it but I now have a better understanding of the issues.
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Admiral Baker R V Park San Diego 5 years 10 months ago #14536

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My question would be: How do civilian get on base? For golf or camping without a sponsor.

Can't even imagine a carload of civilians arriving at a gate, stating they want to play golf, and drive on thru??

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My guess is most golf courses, bowling alleys and clubs do not support themselves. I bet the famcamp supports itself and keeps the other MWR facilities afloat.

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ALL MWR activities have turned into a "for profit" business. They are "non-appropriated" funds activities; mo longer support by our tax dollars. And yes, usually the RV Park supports many of the other MWR activities.
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ALL MWR activities have turned into a "for profit" business. They are "non-appropriated" funds activities; mo longer support by our tax dollars. And yes, usually the RV Park supports many of the other MWR activities.


Which is why our rates will continue to rise while we get no increase in services. I see in many bases now, they're building new campgrounds or expanding campgrounds because the MWR realizes what a cash cow it is for other services.

Raise the price on golf and bowling and other services as well the ALL will carry its own water. Not likely to happen tho.

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If there's an upside to this, it might be that the campgrounds are keeping unprofitable recreation open and available to our active duty folks. I realize it might also be funding high salaries and bonus' to the MWR "sandcrabs." And I don't mean the frontline MWR childcare workers and ITT but the MWR Director and his assistant and that person's assistant.

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I have a golfing friend (never served a day in the military) who depended on me to get them onto Ft. Sill to play golf as my guest. The golf course at Ft. Sill opened to public play. My friend is now a club member and gets onto the post with a MWR access card. I understand this was done to increase revenue.

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Our golf course is off base so no need for entry to the base proper. I have no idea what the Fam Camps cost to operate nor any of the other MWR facilities. But us worker bees are not over paid, minimum wage. And they have raised the cost of Golf, bowling and other areas not of interest to some on this site. As I stated in a previous post the military alone will not pay for hardly anything anymore. Many military don't want anything to do with the base/post etc when done with work. If its an RV only FAM Camp with no cabins or other facilities it may be cost effective to run RV only. But if you add on cabins etc, it becomes very expensive to keep them up. An organization I work with had a cabin for members and its VERY expensive to keep it up. Sad part is we will have to pay more and get less in the future.
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