Wright-Patterson AFB Bass Lake FamCamp

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Wright-Patterson AFB Bass Lake FamCamp

Location

Installation
Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, OH
GPS Coordinates
39.837136, -84.052898
Location Information
Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, OH
RV Gate Coordinates
39.84165, -84.03513

Directions

Directions
If arriving M-F 0600-1800,gate 26A can be used which is on Route 235. From I-70 exit 41, take Route 235 south. About a mile south on 235, the road will exit to the right and pass back over route 4. Just follow the 235 signs. About a mile from this turn, gate 26A will be on your right. After going through the gate, turn right around the flight line, staying to the right at the 'Y' intersection you come to. Turn right and look for brown sign on the left for sign-in to Famcamp, easy to miss. Turn right onto a gravel road which will take you to the office and then to the campground. If the gate is closed just stay on 235 and turn right at the first traffic light and follow that road around the base to the main gate 12A (open 24/7). After entering the gate, go to the stop sign, turn left on Spruce Way. Follow it around and it becomes Skeel Ave. Follow Skeel until it becomes Loop Road. Follow Loop Road around the NE end of the runway until you get to gate 26 then follow directions above. From I-675 north bound, just follow the directions from the Interstate. If you do happen to come in gate 15A, just continue straight which will take you around the flight line.

Contact Information

Phone Number
(937) 257-2579 Office hours are 1100-1730
Mailing Address
Outdoor Recreation, 88 SPTG/SVRP, 5215 Thurlow Street, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433-5542
Email Address
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Campground Information

Authorized Users
Active, National Guard, Reservists, Retired, 100% DAV. DoD/NAF Civilians.
Season
Year round.
Reservations
Accepted up to 6 months in advance. A one night, non-refundable deposit is required. Highly recommended.
Internet Access
WiFi is available.
Mail Forwarding
(Your Name), c/o General Delivery, Fairborn, OH 45324
Pet Information
Allowed with usual leash and clean-up rules.
Campground Information
14 day stay limit that can be extended based on availability. They warn campers of very low water pressure. Not all sites have sewer. If paying by cash or check, there is a drop box in the door at the end of the community center building near the campground by the lake. If paying by credit/debit card, you have to go to building 95 (Outdoor Recreation) or pay by phone. Office hours are 0830 to 1500. They are short staffed, so phone messages make take 24 hours to be returned.
Big Rig Friendly?
Yes
Amenities
  • Dump, Sewer
  • Water
  • Electric
  • Tent Area
  • Laundry
  • Showers
  • Playground
  • Picinic Area
  • Beach
  • Fishing
  • Gas
  • Commissary
  • Exchange
  • Fitness Center
  • Shoppete
  • Snack Bar
  • Class VI
  • Museum
  • Pharmacy
  • Hospital, Clinic
  • Post Office

Site Information

Type of site
Spaces
Hook-ups
Daily
Weekly
Monthly
RV Sites
40
W/20,30,50A/S
$25
$125
N/A
RV Sites
14
W/20,30,50A
$25
$125
N/A
Tent
?
None
$6
N/A
N/A

Other Information

Weather Information

Very close to the Air Force museum.

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  • Ohio - Wright Patterson AFB - Base Map w Legend.pdf
    Base Map w legend to all major facilities. Really helps find Outdoor recreation, Bldg 95, #15 on the Area-A map, where RV site payment, etc takes place. Also provides gate locations and their number.
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August 31 thru September 18, 2016

We have stayed here several times over the past few years, as this RV park is located close to family. By far, this was the best visit that we have ever had, as overall management has improved dramatically. The RV sites are level and concrete. The access roads are paved, the hookups are good, the grounds are well-maintained, and the WiFi is good. The only two negative comments that I would have are in regards to the reservations system and recycling. There is still a disconnect between the folks who take reservations and the camp hosts. I changed my reservation several days prior to arrival and that change did not get communicated to the camp hosts. When I arrived, my site had almost been given away to someone else (which would not have been good since the FamCamp was filled to capacity). Also, there is no recycling on site. Adding this amenity would be helpful. Regardless, we would definitely stay here again when we are in the area, especially given the management improvements.

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September 11-14 2016

Highly recommend arriving during the week as the gate nearest the campground is closed on the week-ends. Also recommend downloading the map as this makes it much easier to find your way around. The campground was very clean and we were greeted by the camp host upon arrival (Sunday) and they even had a pot luck dinner that day of ribs etc. We didn't bring a pass around but there was lots of food there and meeting other campers was very nice. They don't seem to have a lot of scheduled activities, games, etc even though there is a very nice rec hall. Maybe we just didn't stay long enough to get involved. The best part of the trip is the Museum where they just opened up the fourth building this year and it is very much worth the trip. You can go aboard Air Force One (older one) and the Space Shuttle, which is part original and part made up to be full scale. Highly recommend several days to take this all in.

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September 16, 2016

As others are saying, this FAMCAMP has immensely improved over the past few years. Nick (volunteer) spearheaded this movement and now, MWR has added a few hosts (Victoria and Larry). Other volunteers are coming out of the woodwork (Vicky and others just passing through). The sites have always been good, but the people are making it even better. Twice in our 3 week stay the hosts offered a picnic/potluck. Kids played in bounce houses and played games. Adults share a meal a wonderful time of fellowship. While the facility to could use better wifi and a playground for the little ones, little else could be done to improve. The few long-term campers volunteer with mowing and are constantly helping others by spotting a back-in or giving directions around the area. They make it feel like a little community. Honestly, it’s a gem and a great value. We have used this as a stay-cation spot 3 years in a row and this has been the best year yet. My one request is to get a playground for the little kids as it is a 5 mile drive to the nearest base playground and FAMCAMP insinuates all families. There were plenty of kids during our stay that would have used such facilities had they been available. 

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June 2016

You can read on this on this web site: "Senate lawmakers want to radically overhaul how military housing stipends are awarded and end the practice of troops pocketing extra cash from the payouts. Many active duty militatry personnel are collecting the various housing allowances and are living in US Military RV Parks. For financial reasons, I don't blame them. I met an active duty person who bragged that she was pocketing over $1,000 a month, since the Military RV Park was affordable and included all utilities. However, as an RV'er, I don't agree with anyone living in a "recreational" facility. This may all end soon, as Senate lawmakers want to radically overhaul how military housing stipends are awarded and end the practice of troops pocketing extra cash from the payouts. Instead of the current Basic Allowance for Housing system, which assigns flat-rate stipends for zip codes across the country based on troops’ rank and family status, the new proposal would move closer to the military’s Overseas Housing Allowance. That system sets maximum payable stipends but awards troops only for their actual expenses, making recipients provide proof of what they pay in rent and utilities costs. If it becomes law, the new housing allowance payouts would not go into effect until January 2018, giving military officials at least a year to implement and explain the new system." The homesteaders at Wright Patterson have been in the same spaces years and years. This is in violation of the AFI. Which clearly states campgrounds are not to be used as long term housing. They are for recreational use only. Further the AFI states those employed on and off base, stationed on that base, etc will not use the Famp Camp as long term housing. I suggest others write a letter to the Commander of Wright Patterson AFB expressing your displeasure with the homesteaders in the Wright Patterson Fam Camp. We are going to send a letter to the base commanders. Others need to do the same!

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JUNE 2016

Visited this FC a few times over the years. Yes, has improved. This improvement can be directly linked to volunteers doing the improvements. MWR on this base has long over looked this camp ground. Thankfully, one certain person got involved and his involvement caused all of the improvements. If this one person, a long term camper, had not got involved the place would be in bad shape as it was for years. MWR has done little for this campground. You can thank the volunteers for the improvements. Agree with roundTire's comment about the mowers. They need to exhaust the mower away from RVs. The debris from their mowers are blasting small rocks towards the RVs. Someone, be it the operator or MWR, will pay for damages to RVs. Dog owners are dog owners. They think their dogs rule. And they, the owner, is exempt from the rules. We even saw the camp ground host taking her two dogs into the laundry room. All need to follow the rules. We also heard comments about MWR at this base not reading ICE comments. We were told the negative comments are deleted. Not a way to run a business! Take the good with the bad. Act on the negative comments as well as the positive ones. MWR can, and should, read and act on the negative comments. If this is true, what a shame. If you feel your comments were not acted on, or trashed by MWR, then submit them directly to the Commander Wright Patterson AFB. And state in your comment why you are submitting a comment directly to the Commander. Instead of on ICE.

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(Updated: August 05, 2016)
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June 2016

MS Phillips good comments. Agree The host is great. When we were there the guy in 5th wheel and guy in Airstream were working hard. Both are campers. Not MWR staff. Between those two and a few others they have done wonders for the place. Only complaint we have is the mowers need to learn to blow AWAY from RVs. EVERY TIME THEY MOW -- BLOW AWAY FROM THE RVs. Other complaint is one or two people brought their dogs into the laundry room. They know who they are and they know better. Yes a system needs to be set up for comments to the command. We were told by one of the campers that ICE comments were ignored by MWR at WP. 

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May and August 2016

Like other visitors, I'm taking the time to post a review because of the outstanding work done by Victoria, the WPAFB Famcamp host. As others have pointed out, Victoria and unpaid volunteers who are (I think) homesteaders really do work very, very hard and make this place feel pleasant, safe and friendly. In fact, one day I suggested to Victoria that she take a break! They are currently in the process of moving all of the long-term folks, like TDY/AD military, into the non-pull-thru spaces. The result of all their effort is that the grass is mown, the campground is orderly, public spaces are clean, and checking in and out is done with oversight. Victoria has a golf cart and is consistently seen monitoring the coming and goings. She'll help spot you as you back in, review the rules in a very friendly way, and makes sure you get a receipt for your payment. They use cones on each site for the reservation system, so if you pull in after hours just look for your name on the clipboard attached to the cone. I guess my only suggestion for the campground is that the laundry/shower facilities need to be expanded. Even aside from the AF Museum, which is awe-inspiring, Dayton is an ideal place to pause enroute from west to east and back, so expanding the Famcamp here would be a blessing to service members and their families AND the base. FSS CCs who are looking to increase revenue for the base truly need to realize how many military retirees are out on the road with their RVs and whose site fees could make an enormous difference to the FSS budget for all sorts of programs on base--think tens of thousands of dollars! There appears to be a great deal of unused land behind the campground, too, so even more revenue could be generated with a reasonable extension of the sewer/electric infrastructure. The last suggestion I'd like to make (presuming the FSS CC reads this) is to repair the dock on the lake, which is right next to the campground. It's a beautiful(!) lake, but it's unsafe to use the dock because its falling apart. Specifically, just 1 one entry point onto the long dock out of 3 is stable and above water. I enjoyed walking over to the lake each morning with my dog, who is an avid swimmer and ball-chaser. It was so fun! Even though it's terribly confusing to find things at WPAFB (except the golf course, which very obviously IS a priority for base leaders), it's still a worthy stopover spot for RVers. Think smart, guys; expand the Famcamp and pay Victoria what she's worth. OH, AND....create a link to the FSS leadership so that they can get campers' feedback. You seem to be hiding who is accountable for the Famcamp; that's counterproductive.

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July 6, 2016

The Camp Host is the deciding factor to stay at Wright Patterson FAMCAMP. She has done an outstanding job getting things fixed up and harnessing motivation of many volunteers. Laundry area and bathrooms were very well kept. The sites themselves are also in very good condition and have brand new picnic tables. We used laundry facilities regularly and found the machines and prices to be good. Local campers help out with mowing, so the grounds are in very good condition because the folks who stay there frequently take great pride in maintaining the facilities. The regulars are also very friendly and helpful. One downside on facilities and amenities is lack of water pressure and power of the WIFI signal in the park. Water pressure is coming into the coach at ~20psi. Not the greatest, but I do have water. WIFI is available, but most folks seem to go to the table near the restrooms/laundry room or in the laundry room to gain access to the device. MWR and the chain of command don't seem to realize what a gem they have available within reach of the Gem City (Dayton) and the National Museum of the US Air Force. Far too many big ticket events like the AF Marathon and Dayton/Vectren Airshow to allow anything but a top-notch operation at this FAMCAMP. Hopeful wing leadership will see the monetary impact some pride has brought to the park and make a conscious decision to provide funding and/or make further improvements to the camp. 

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June 2016

Do not give MWR ODR any credit for improvements made to the WP FamCamp!!!! The place is cleaned up solely because of the volunteers. Especially the guy in 5th wheel space #12, the host and the little guy in the overflow area. They mowed, cleaned, did flower beds and more. And other volunteers as well have done lots there. If it left up to MWR to get things done at the Fam Camp it will not get done. Office does not answer phone calls. The phone rings at MWR while employees are chatting about nonsense non related work issues. It is an exceptional thing when they do answer the phone or return your phone call. This MWR is the most poorly managed and ran of all MWRs that we have seen. Go out of your way to get a receipt for any transaction done by the office. Check the receipt ODR gives you. The ODR office cannot manage the place. MWR has no idea how to run a Fam Camp. The host is doing a wonderful job. She did so much as a volunteer before getting the job as host. Pray she does not leave. She is a blessing to the place. She is wonderful to deal with. Very very helpful. and a hard worker. Be careful what you wish for about kicking the homesteaders out of Fam Camps. A few of them do a super good job of helping out. They are friendly and helpful. They do not get paid and do not get free rent. Who will do all of this when they leave? No one! We are at McChord now. The homesteads were kicked out here. Something about not following the AFI. Now there is only one lady (Amanda) in the office and Maggie part time. Who we believe is just helping out. The former manager (Ron) was let go over the homesteader issue. 15 homesteaders were booted out. Including Roy. Roy and others did much for the FamCamp at McChord. Now who is going to do it? Roy used to work till 9 or 10 pm working and doing things at the park. Ron went above and beyond his duties and did so much for the place. Now no one will be there to do all the extra work Roy, Ron and volunteers did. So, based upon what we have seen at McChord, if the volunteers and the host leave Wright Pat Fam Camp the place will be in bad shape again. The homesteaders at WP are friendly and helpful. Only complaint we have is the mowers need to exhaust the mower away from RVs. 

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26 May 2016

We almost did not come here because of some of the earlier negative reviews.  We're glad we came, this is now a great Famcamp.  We reserved and paid over the phone a couple of months in advance, so no additional check-in needed.  The camp host met us at our site as we pulled in and helped us position. She saw our dogs and pointed out the dog bag/waste station locations and showed Cheryl good walking areas. Our pull-through site (16) was level and long enough for our 40' MH and towed car without unhooking.  Electric and sewer fine, water pressure a little low, but acceptable.  The campground and surrounding recreational areas are well-maintained.  We'll definitely return to this Famcamp when visiting the Museum of the Air Force.  There were only two negatives.  1. A few days before our stay, Rec Services called and explained they were re-working site assignments to fit more folks in over Memorial Day weekend.  Asked if we'd be willing to change to a back-in site.  I explained we were there for a one-night stay and had specifically reserved a pull-through so we would not have to unhook our car.  Young man said OK and confirmed we'd be in a pull-through as reserved/paid.  I count this as a negative versus a positive because our stay was before the holiday rush and there were a half-dozen empty pull-through sites the night of our stay.
2. Getting through the base to the campground was a nightmare.  We had to come in the main gate.  The guard was very helpful, providing a map and directions to get to the Famcamp. But, just as we were getting to the right turn to go around the flight line, the SPs put a barricade across the road and took off with no indication of what was going on. We did eventually make it to the Famcamp via a tortuous route with low-hanging trees, etc.  The unannounced road closure screwed up the camp host's drive as well - she thought it was for some kind of festival/event.

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4-7 June, 2016

We called for reservations and paid over the phone. We just parked in our site when we arrived without having to check in with anyone. Stayed 4 nights in overflow which is the first row of back-ins facing the street as you enter the park. Overflow has 50 amps and water. There's a dump station. Restrooms and shower were cleaned regularly. Small laundry room and cheap - $1 to wash, 50 cents to dry. WiFi is pretty weak. Our site was long and level. No shade. Grass was cut regularly. Met the camp host who was super helpful. She was always busy doing something outside, very visible, often escorting new arrivals to their site. Water pressure was very low. All the full hook up sites and pull thrus were taken or reserved while we were there, most for longer than two weeks. The park is on base but not close to much. I'd stay again for a day or two but not worth it to me for any longer.

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MAY 2016

New Camp Host is doing a great job. Outdoor Rec. office personnel have not got a clue.  Phone calls to them go to the answering machine and they don't return your calls.  When you do get a person, they put you get put on hold for a long period of time before they help you.  WIFI is still a problem...very slow to none.  Over all the Park is very nice, and well maintained. 

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(Updated: May 29, 2016)
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Summer 2015

Well glad to hear improved.  Finally. Good.

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May 2016

Wow what an improvement at the Wright Patterson Fam Camp!  Stopped in there to visit someone who was staying there. Host is doing a great job!  Very helpful.  Few homesteaders help daily cleaning the place up. This place has turned around in the last two years or so. The drop box for paying will soon be moved to the laundry room.  That will save the walk/drive over to the lodge (where the drop box is now located at). Word is they will be upgrading the WIFI.

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May 2016

Stayed at this camp before.  Some things have improved.  Such as grass is now cut (+), bath house is now cleaned often (+), and other minor things done to improve(+).  WIFI is now in the camp ground(+).  Last visit it was in the lodge out of range from the camp ground (-). Remains a pain to contact the office(-), to pay(-) and to find the park on base(-) (no direction signs to camp).  We finally got someone on the phone at the office.  Spoke with a T****S (-) on the phone.  Poor customer service and phone courtesy by this guy on the phone to us(-)! MWR-ODR is trying to hire a full time camp host.  This may end some of the poor customer service by office staff and lack of communication with the office. Filling the host gap is now being done by a few of the homesteaders.  They have done lots to improve the camp ground. One male homesteader has done a super great job in cleaning the place up (+)  Hats off to him.  He deserves a huge pat on the back and a "thank you." We have been to many military camp grounds.  Some hosts do a wonderful job.  Others make your stay miserable.  The good ones know their limits.  Keep out of your face and business. A common trait among the bad hosts we have seen is they get a attitude, we see often, that they own the place. Get combative and bossy.  Do not have the support, or liking, of the customers.  Hosts need to be reminded they serve the customer.  The productive relationship between the customers and the host can be quickly destroyed in a few bad incidents and bad attitude by the host.  Bad word travels faster than good word.  A rude bossy host is counter productive and gets nothing but bad reviews, complaints to higher ups and eventually told to move on.  Then back to square one.  Have this host help the place.  Not ruin it. From what we were told there has never been a host at this camp ground.  Do it the right way from day one.  Do not let who ever the host will be run unsupervised by higher ups. Over all this camp ground is an improvement from years ago.  This is due mostly due to the work done by the homesteaders there.  Especially that one guy.  Good job guy.  Thank you. 

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Jul 7-14 2015

More of a long term trailer park than vacation campground. Several permanent residents were very territorial an made us feel as though we were encroaching on their property. Nice facility and fellow travelers were friendly.

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Sep 8-15 2015

First visit to this Famcamp and it was enjoyable. The park was well kept and clean. Didn't experience any of the "host" problems others have spoken of. There was a gentleman, Nick, that meet us as we arrived and escorted us to our site. Someone was in our assigned site and Nick immediately called Outdoor Rec and got us another site. Nick told us that the former host had died in August of cancer and there was a notice in the laundry room about the death of this individual. Nick was very friendly and was seen daily escorting new arrivals to their sites, doing general cleaning, and weed eating around the utility poles for the grass cutter. As far as the campground itself, it is far away from everything. The Wi-Fi is working now in the park, but is very slow. For no more amenities that the park has, the cost is a little high. If we are ever in the area again, we would not hesitate to stay here.

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Sep 3rd 2015

Read previous reviews and didn't find some of the problems that others pointed out. The main problem we had was the directions on this web site. We came in the gate 26A and followed the directions to the brown sign. The sign only had in tiny letters Bass Lake with an arrow pointing to the left and FamCamp with an arrow [pointing straight ahead. The other side of the sign which we didn't see had in large letters "FamCamp Sign-IN" and an arrow pointing to the right which you can only see if coming from the other direction. I followed the tiny sign that said FamCamp straight ahead. Going down that road about a quarter mile I then saw a campground off to the left. The sign in front of the campground said "FamCamp Annex". I thought to myself if this was the "FamCamp Annex" there must be a full campground further down the road, WRONG! After following the road for a mile or two I ran into a security patrol and asked him where the FamCamp was. He said to turn around and follow him. Not a fun thing to do with a 5th wheel. I found an intersection large enough to make a three point turn and followed him back to the FamCamp Annex. So, the FamCamp Annex is not an annex it is really the FamCamp. Someone needs to remove the word Annex from the sign and change the other direction sign adding "FamCamp Sign-IN" with an arrow pointing to the left on the gate 26A side of the sign. Although WiFi is advertised it hasn't worked since we have been here. My wife ran into a technician working on it and he seemed pretty positive that it would be working when he was finished. You can connect to the router but the router is not connecting to the Internet. I agree that they shouldn't allow homesteaders taking the best sites. If they allow homesteading they should have specific sites assigned, not the best ones. I also agree a camp host would be useful since the office is across base.

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2.0

2011 - 2015 off and on.

This RV camp ground has improved over time. But, it is still lacking in proper, day-to-day, over sight by MWR. i.e. the office is out of sight = out of mind. Payment system is not well explained. Woman who works in the office seems to never get her act together. To use wifi means a walk, or drive, over to the lodge. Never got a answer why the wifi is not located in the camp ground proper. Last post addressed the issues of the camp ground host. And rebuttal by Blackhawk was interesting. Both posters have valid points. Seems best way to settle the camp host issue at this facility is for MWR director, and or base commander to post an appointment letter at the camp ground for all to read. Then it is official. If this person is not officially the host, ignore him. He is trying to be helpful. He has no power to boss you around. If it really bothers you then contact the director of MWR and make your views known. This appointment letter should state who is the host, cell phone number, location of his, or her, RV, hours on duty, and spell out exactly what are the duties of this host. This will clear up the want to be a host business going on there. Then all campers know what the host is to do, or not do. What his, or her, limits are. This will avoid confusion and toes being stepped on. I have seen and heard the guy addressed by the post and Blackhawk's rebuttal. Yes, he is over bearing. But, has a great interest in helping out and fixing up the camp ground there. He did come out and meet and greet people. That being stated, he has a way about him that can easily rub people the wrong way. He never told anyone to mow their areas. I checked with a few campers there. Over all he is a good guy. But needs to tone it down some. Again, MWR/base commander needs to spell out in writing who the host is and the duties of the host. i.e. can, or cannot, collect money. Also list who is point of contact for comments and complaints regarding this host. Over sight is the key to any camp ground host position. Keeps them in line and keeps the ruffled feathers down. I agree with many of the comments on this board that MWR needs to have better daily contact at the camp ground. Over all not a bad place but needs some help. I counted five home steaders there. Staying full time. They did grab the best spaces. Most of stop in for a few days and move on. So why is it such a issue what spot a transient Rv'er gets? The fam camp is hardly ever filled to max. So one cannot argue that the homesteaders are denying someone a space. I do agree that the homesteaders should rotate spaces more often than what they now do. By rotating them more often would put a stop to this complaining about the homesteaders grabbing the best spaces. The winter there is bad. Horrible. So if the homesteaders want to stay all winter more power to them. Some funds come into MWR in the winter. But does not make or break MRW's budget as the poster below tried to tell us.

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Overall rating 
 
3.0
Location  
 
3.0
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3.0
Amenities/Facilities  
 
3.0
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3.0
Overall Experience 
 
3.0

Sept 2014 through Jan 2015

Wife and I PCS'd from JBER, AK in Sept '14 (wife is active, I'm retired). The housing situation was bleak. We stayed at the FAM camp until just after Christmas. We were thankful to have a safe and convenient place to stay. Initially we lived in our class C, but by mid Oct we had purchased a very large 5th wheel, to live in permanently. Yes, I said permanently, like 9 others were HAVING to do. A few of the 9 have lived their for 2-4 years, to date. There was a doctor who lived there for 4 years, during his entire tour. We were of the mind to do the same, but were finally moved into the on base by surprise. Outdoor Rec has issues with maintaining this facility, especially during the winter months, Oct thru April. The full-time residents, by being there long-term, help keep the place running. Without them and their monthly ($500/month) fees, ODR would be forced to close down the CG. So, yes, there are some who are there long-term. They are required to move out at least once a year, and they do this as required. They, like any camper, have the right to select the site they want. This may not seam fair to the rest of the world, but if you were in their shoes and had that opportunity, you would do the same. As for the CG host...Having a CG host helps to keep visitors directed, especially those who feel the need to "let their hair down". The CG host, as well as all campers/visitors have the right to a good camping experience. The CG host helps to insure that everyone is treated fairly and that the facilities, like the new, expensive, most beneficial washer and dryers, are taken care of and not abused. Yes, there have been some abuse, believe it or not, of our facilities and we must work hard to police the area. The current CG host is new to this volunteer position. He works long days, weeks, months, and at the same time, helps to facilitate the needs of campers concerns, especially during winter months when there are very few people available to provide support. He may not be your ideal CG host, but he is a welcomed volunteer. Give him time, he's adjusting to these new and strange duties. Being a retired military person, like many of us, he expresses an authoritative style of leadership "habits". Oh well. This CG experiences many travelers, especially those still in uniform who need and deserve to have a place to rest their heads, have their families with them and do their jobs while both working and playing here at WPAFB. The missions here are very complex, and this FAM camp fulfills many needs of the military men and women assigned here. Please be patient and respectful, and try and enjoy your time and stay here at WPAFB. We need to keep ALL our CG's, so help us keep this one too! Thanks!

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