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FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 5 years 1 month ago #6144

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To avoid being redundant; for those who stay here in the winter you might want to read the review I wrote yesterday.
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6777

Call ahead, and be very specific in your requests/needs!
We had a VERY upsetting experience with this campground! We called ahead (three weeks), asked specific questions about our site needs, AND specified that we were a host-family for a foriegn echasnge student. We were told to come ahead, that there were no problems, and we would have a great time!

On the appointed Friday, my family and I drove 10 hours through the night, to get to Patrick AFB. We arrived only to be denied entry to the Base and camp site! It seems we were not informed of the locally-required forms which would allow a non-U.S. citizen entry to the Base. When I said it would be no problem to fill out the required forms, I was then informed that there was no way they could be processed, on a weekend!! Welcome to Florida, the USAF way!!!

Not being some high-level retired officer, and a family man to boot, budget ruled this family vacation. Having to rely on a different Camp Ground (more costly) was a serious inconvenience, not to mention being forced to drive around looking for an alternative, asfter driving through the night!

We did adapt and overcome, thanks to Marine training, however, they sure didn't do anything to further A.F. reputation...... :blink:
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6779

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Instead of blaming the AF,, why not look to blaming the individual who gave you the information.. I guess the Navy doesn't have the same problem. I thought that Marine traning also included a "no whine coarse"
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6788

I find it hard to believe that Patrick said "no problems". This time of year they are usually full and only have dry camping available until you rotate into hookups.
The last time I was there they (the gate security) only checked for ID's of the Driver and even if they wanted ID's of any others a picture ID is all they want. I don't understand the difficulty with the exchange student.
Maybe you should have checked with the base security concerning the issue of bringing an exchange student aboard the base, not the RV park manager.
Not sure what kind of rig you have, but Florida has a lot of state parks that accept RV'S. We have stayed in one, and the rates are decent and they had very well maintained faciliy.
Frank
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6878

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Re problems at Patrick Fam Camp. I called ahead several days before the Space Shuttle, asked questions and also assured no problem. Drove myself, from VA and arrived in evening. I couldn't locate my ID card, had base stickers on both vehicles and DD14 in my RV. Made it thro the the Security gate without problems, until I met the camp host/work camper. Unable to provide ID,I was instructed to go to Walmart, at night and several miles in an unknown town. By now,I was tired, upset and exhausted, a danger to others on the road. I refused to leave, they called the same security that allowed me onboard. Then they informed me that my cat was now a third pet, even tho he is an inside cat and I would again have to leave. The camp hosts was unable to make independent decisions. Needless to say, I didn't, found my ID in the car, and persued a stay until the shuttle went up and I left immediately. It depends on who you talk to and how much they know or how they feel at the time. There should always be a senior camp host available at least by phone.
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6879

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Honestly I am amazed you made it through the gate without going through Pass and ID to obtain a temp pass. I don't think I've been on a base or post that would even let you on without either or your ID or a temp pass. Camp host was only doing his job. You gotta remember that camp host are retired G.I.'s and a lot take the mind set "here's what it says and here's what I do". I had a similar experience in Key West after being given permission to return after Hurricane Wilma. Could have been easily solved by the Master Chief ret.CH but it was beyond his comprehension to make a decision and to wait until the RV park director returned from a Dr' Appoint 2 days later.
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6890

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Seems to me, regardless of any authority present, you had no ID ... that's not his fault, and if it was me, I'd not have let you through the gate to begin with. Security can ID you with FP in a few seconds, and you could have a new ID - so, am not sure if you are complaining about that, or just explaining about that ...

BTW: Did you find ID ever, or get a new one??
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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6895

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To clarify the ID issue at Patrick. I had two base stickers, and a DD214, the ID card fell out of my pocket at a gas station when I unhooked the car to get past an obstruction and was found on the car seat later. I went thru Security and talked with the senior on duty and was let aboard at 2000 (dark this time of night). No temp pass offered. ID would have been avail. in the AM if needed. If security let me on board, why would the Camp Host be justified to refuse me service?
I guess you could say that I am a GI too since I did 24+ years active service.
Complaining or stating a fact? They person I talked to asked me about my pets and I told him what I had, ie: No Problem. PS I called in advance.













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Re:FAMCAMP- PATRICK AFB 4 years 7 months ago #6896

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It's hard to second guess the way this was handled. A previous comment questioned why you were allowed on base without an ID card and I question the same thing. One, two or three base stickers don't mean anything, that's why bases do a 100% ID check and I'm sure you've been on AF bases that no longer require a base sticker for that reason. You're the only person I know that travels with a DD 214 but I suspect that would assist in getting a new ID. I don't think it carries much weight as identification. Personally, if I was the host, I'd have called security and questioned why they let you on base. If they were willing to give you a temporary pass I'd have given you a campsite till you could get to PSD in the morning and replace the lost ID. I don't think anyone would fault security or the campground for denying entry without proper ID. If it's important enough to have retricted entry to a military base, it's important to follow the rules. With 24 years in the canoe club I'm sure you'd agree if you thought about the security aspect. Sorry you had the problem and hope you enjoy many nights of camping on military bases, you earned it. Merry Christmas
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