Homesteading

Agree with get a house or apartment.

At Oak grove in Pensacola Homestedding is on the rise. People living in the CG that work on base and Mil. Retired. I can see certain reason for extended stays like medical treatment or if your home was distroyed by fire or storms. but if you are collecting a retirement and working get a house. Those living in CG with kids, Man i would want to have a decent home for my kids to live in. Or maybe I was just raised wrong.

It is wrong to homestead. Like Illegal Immigration is wrong. If you want to Homestead fine, Change the Rules! I have always found it to be a joke that people say "well I have found a way to skirt the system, abusing the system you mean! Feeling so proud they have gotten over because no one has held them accountable and they are above the rules. I expect this from the younger generation of misguided mindless drones who only know, give me, give me, give me and find their meaning of life in a lifeless piece of technology because they cannot communicate with other human beings face to face; lacking the self confidence their parents were responsible for instilling, abdicating to the schools their responsibility. I expect better from active and retired military; the last bastion of what has always been good about America. The Euro-trash self-centered attitude of "Screw you" I am entitled, seems to be the way of many today. Well, I choose to do what is right, and will continue to wake up in the morning and look at myself in the mirror knowing I'm not screwing my fellow military and federal brethren. (That's how I was raised.) As for the camp hosts that allow their buddies front of the line privileges, you had better hope you never have me as your manager because you'll be looking for a new place to be a camp host, like maybe the parking lot of your local Walmart.
For campgrounds that sit vacant during extended periods, here is the exception to the rule. Of course they should keep campers that willing to fund the site, unless circumstances change, such as new RV'ers who are entitled to a spot. If they arriv to a park full of Homesteaders, then the homesteaders should be forced to move out based on who has been there the longest, returning only if they do not prevent other new members from staying.
Proper management and planning can always find a middle ground that is Efficient, Rational and FAIR!
As I said in my previous post, hold people accountable, even those military getting housing allowances for quarters. Someday I’d like to enjoy the benefit of visiting the MWR Campgrounds around the country, but not living in one. do not accept the unnacceptable. Demand better. If I have offended, then you should be offended. Those abusing the system are the problem, not the ones working within the system. Like the current political climate where Redicals believe rules do not apply to them, Homesteaders that share the same mentality demonstrate who's side they are truely on. Think about it.
the truth hurts!

Very Respectfully.

I can understand people wanting to have a homey atmosphere. I can also understand when someone uses his/her RV for extended TDY. It makes sense and saves money. But, I do not understand how transients can homestead. I think that it is time for some commanders to have a "come to be with" discussion with their personnel.

In response to Frank & Alice...The SMART caravan that takes a few spots at KAFB during the AIBF is an MWR function, part of their tour package, to the SMART caravan only for a few days of the Balloon Fiesta. All Active/Retired Military are eligible. Check it out www.smartrving.org and click on caravans.

trvl2smwhr wrote: In response to Frank & Alice...The SMART caravan that takes a few spots at KAFB during the AIBF is an MWR function, part of their tour package, to the SMART caravan only for a few days of the Balloon Fiesta. All Active/Retired Military are eligible. Check it out www.smartrving.org and click on caravans.

I'm with Frank and Alice. First SMART has members that are not active duty or retired. People pay their thousand or two thousand dollars to SMART to be in that caravan, not to MWR. The year I was there the base had the whole new area reserved for the SMART group not just for the period they would be there but for a week before their arrival to make sure it was available. Smart gets to use those spaces and AUTHORIZED users are turned away or get less desirable spots. It STINKS.

It seams that MWR needs to bring all the campgrounds into compliance with certain rules, then enforce the rules. We arrived at Gila Bend 12/21 and stayed only one night in the overflow. However, since that date there are now 6 in the overflow and the same 4-5 spaces open up every few days to allow one at a time to move into hook-ups. There are 38 spaces at this camp and 34 are taken by homesteaders....one in particular has been here 6 years without moving. One has the awning laying on the ground that was torn off in a tornado two years ago. These two residents aren't even here, one has their other vehicle camping in Corpus Christi in that park and the other shows up about every other week for a few days. Everyone should be able to stay the limit if they choose, but there seem to be too many that abuse the system. This park does not have a host. I think if you leave the space to visit home or wherever for more than a few days, it should be required that you vacate the spot and get back in line. and for the full campground rule(30 days here), they should require you to vacate within 24 hours..First in first out, if a new rv wishes to camp for the time allowed.